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Abuse@rogers.com
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Leona
2009-11-09 22:14:38 UTC
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Ok, So a "friend" of mine received an email staing that Rogers
received notification that stated this: Rogers Cable (Rogers) has
received a notice stating that activities associated with your IP
address are infringing copyright in material(s) owned or exclusively
licensed by others.

Can Rogers actually sue, or just disconnect the service?
Is it really illegal in Canada to DL copies of copywright materal? OR
is it because my "friend left the seed open for a bit and technically
was sharing it?
People do this every day without warning...How is it possible after
"trying" it out this person gets caught.
The material no longer sits on the network, which is what Rogers said
needed to be done.
How do people do this all day everyday without being caught?

If say one purchases a copy of the Movie/CD/Software is it illegal to
own a digital copy taken from another peer?

Leona :)
clouddreamer
2009-11-09 22:25:54 UTC
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Post by Leona
Ok, So a "friend" of mine received an email staing that Rogers
received notification that stated this: Rogers Cable (Rogers) has
received a notice stating that activities associated with your IP
address are infringing copyright in material(s) owned or exclusively
licensed by others.
Can Rogers actually sue, or just disconnect the service?
Is it really illegal in Canada to DL copies of copywright materal? OR
is it because my "friend left the seed open for a bit and technically
was sharing it?
People do this every day without warning...How is it possible after
"trying" it out this person gets caught.
The material no longer sits on the network, which is what Rogers said
needed to be done.
How do people do this all day everyday without being caught?
If say one purchases a copy of the Movie/CD/Software is it illegal to
own a digital copy taken from another peer?
Leona :)
I've heard of others getting it, but have yet to hear of any action
being taken because of it.

I still buy dvds and have kept my subscription to the movie channels, so
AFAIAC, I have technically paid for the few movies I download.

;]
--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us.
Leona
2009-11-09 22:33:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by clouddreamer
Post by Leona
Ok, So a "friend" of mine received an email staing that Rogers
received notification that stated this: Rogers Cable (Rogers) has
received a notice stating that activities associated with your IP
address are infringing copyright in material(s) owned or exclusively
licensed by others.
Can Rogers actually sue, or just disconnect the service?
Is it really illegal in Canada to DL copies of copywright materal? OR
is it because my "friend left the seed open for a bit and technically
was sharing it?
People do this every day without warning...How is it possible after
"trying" it out this person gets caught.
The material no longer sits on the network, which is what Rogers said
needed to be done.
How do people do this all day everyday without being caught?
If say one purchases a copy of the Movie/CD/Software is it illegal to
own a digital copy taken from another peer?
Leona :)
I've heard of others getting it, but have yet to hear of any action
being taken because of it.
I still buy dvds and have kept my subscription to the movie channels, so
AFAIAC, I have technically paid for the few movies I download.
  ;]
--
We must change the way we live
        Or the climate will do it for us.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's true.

I'm thinking it's because they keep the seed open for a little while
overnight and technically were sharing it.

Any hints on how they not receive anymore emails like this?

Leona
Todd
2009-11-09 22:37:56 UTC
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One sure way is to switch to Aliant.
Post by Leona
Post by clouddreamer
Post by Leona
Ok, So a "friend" of mine received an email staing that Rogers
received notification that stated this: Rogers Cable (Rogers) has
received a notice stating that activities associated with your IP
address are infringing copyright in material(s) owned or exclusively
licensed by others.
Can Rogers actually sue, or just disconnect the service?
Is it really illegal in Canada to DL copies of copywright materal? OR
is it because my "friend left the seed open for a bit and technically
was sharing it?
People do this every day without warning...How is it possible after
"trying" it out this person gets caught.
The material no longer sits on the network, which is what Rogers said
needed to be done.
How do people do this all day everyday without being caught?
If say one purchases a copy of the Movie/CD/Software is it illegal to
own a digital copy taken from another peer?
Leona :)
I've heard of others getting it, but have yet to hear of any action
being taken because of it.
I still buy dvds and have kept my subscription to the movie channels, so
AFAIAC, I have technically paid for the few movies I download.
  ;]
--
We must change the way we live
        Or the climate will do it for us.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's true.
I'm thinking it's because they keep the seed open for a little while
overnight and technically were sharing it.
Any hints on how they not receive anymore emails like this?
Leona
Leona
2009-11-09 23:40:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by Todd
One sure way is to switch to Aliant.
Post by Leona
Post by clouddreamer
Post by Leona
Ok, So a "friend" of mine received an email staing that Rogers
received notification that stated this: Rogers Cable (Rogers) has
received a notice stating that activities associated with your IP
address are infringing copyright in material(s) owned or exclusively
licensed by others.
Can Rogers actually sue, or just disconnect the service?
Is it really illegal in Canada to DL copies of copywright materal? OR
is it because my "friend left the seed open for a bit and technically
was sharing it?
People do this every day without warning...How is it possible after
"trying" it out this person gets caught.
The material no longer sits on the network, which is what Rogers said
needed to be done.
How do people do this all day everyday without being caught?
If say one purchases a copy of the Movie/CD/Software is it illegal to
own a digital copy taken from another peer?
Leona :)
I've heard of others getting it, but have yet to hear of any action
being taken because of it.
I still buy dvds and have kept my subscription to the movie channels, so
AFAIAC, I have technically paid for the few movies I download.
  ;]
--
We must change the way we live
        Or the climate will do it for us.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's true.
I'm thinking it's because they keep the seed open for a little while
overnight and technically were sharing it.
Any hints on how they not receive anymore emails like this?
Leona- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I would but it's not in my area. Le Sigh! Got anything else? lol


Leona :)
Stormlady
2009-11-13 16:15:00 UTC
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"
I would but it's not in my area. Le Sigh! Got anything else? lol


Leona :)

If they're using uTorrent, I think the encrypting keeps Rogers from knowing
what you're downloading or uploading.

DrewNL
2009-11-10 01:13:33 UTC
Permalink
You're right on the seeding, thats what got you.....r friend. Rogers is
really afraid of people giving away stuff on their network. To answer
your first question: The best they can do is cut you off, not sue. They
don't own the property that was being seeded. I've seen people from both
Aliant and Rogers get these notices, but Aliant is a lot more tolerant.
You'd have to be seeding 24/7 at considerable bandwidth before they'd
bother. They don't want to cut you off, you represent easy money.
Post by Leona
Post by clouddreamer
Post by Leona
Ok, So a "friend" of mine received an email staing that Rogers
received notification that stated this: Rogers Cable (Rogers) has
received a notice stating that activities associated with your IP
address are infringing copyright in material(s) owned or exclusively
licensed by others.
Can Rogers actually sue, or just disconnect the service?
Is it really illegal in Canada to DL copies of copywright materal? OR
is it because my "friend left the seed open for a bit and technically
was sharing it?
People do this every day without warning...How is it possible after
"trying" it out this person gets caught.
The material no longer sits on the network, which is what Rogers said
needed to be done.
How do people do this all day everyday without being caught?
If say one purchases a copy of the Movie/CD/Software is it illegal to
own a digital copy taken from another peer?
Leona :)
I've heard of others getting it, but have yet to hear of any action
being taken because of it.
I still buy dvds and have kept my subscription to the movie channels, so
AFAIAC, I have technically paid for the few movies I download.
;]
--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's true.
I'm thinking it's because they keep the seed open for a little while
overnight and technically were sharing it.
Any hints on how they not receive anymore emails like this?
Leona
Corey
2009-11-10 02:25:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by DrewNL
You're right on the seeding, thats what got you.....r friend. Rogers is
really afraid of people giving away stuff on their network. To answer
your first question: The best they can do is cut you off, not sue. They
don't own the property that was being seeded. I've seen people from both
Aliant and Rogers get these notices, but Aliant is a lot more tolerant.
You'd have to be seeding 24/7 at considerable bandwidth before they'd
bother. They don't want to cut you off, you represent easy money.
Post by Leona
Post by clouddreamer
Post by Leona
Ok, So a "friend" of mine received an email staing that Rogers
received notification that stated this: Rogers Cable (Rogers) has
received a notice stating that activities associated with your IP
address are infringing copyright in material(s) owned or exclusively
licensed by others.
Can Rogers actually sue, or just disconnect the service?
Is it really illegal in Canada to DL copies of copywright materal? OR
is it because my "friend left the seed open for a bit and technically
was sharing it?
People do this every day without warning...How is it possible after
"trying" it out this person gets caught.
The material no longer sits on the network, which is what Rogers said
needed to be done.
How do people do this all day everyday without being caught?
If say one purchases a copy of the Movie/CD/Software is it illegal to
own a digital copy taken from another peer?
Leona :)
I've heard of others getting it, but have yet to hear of any action
being taken because of it.
I still buy dvds and have kept my subscription to the movie channels, so
AFAIAC, I have technically paid for the few movies I download.
  ;]
--
We must change the way we live
        Or the climate will do it for us.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's true.
I'm thinking it's because they keep the seed open for a little while
overnight and technically were sharing it.
Any hints on how they not receive anymore emails like this?
Leona
This happens to many people, and nothing will ever come of it. In my
case it was due to a roommate downloading episodes of Battlestar
Gallactica. Basically NBC contact Rogers, and Rogers just forwarded
the "complaint". I just deleted the email, and my roommate continued
what he was doing. I believe Rogers just forwards it along and washes
their hands of it
DrewNL
2009-11-10 07:45:17 UTC
Permalink
Yeah, ISPs pass stuff on, and thats all. They need to look like they
care, or they'll catch crap from studios...so they send emails.
Post by Corey
Post by DrewNL
You're right on the seeding, thats what got you.....r friend. Rogers is
really afraid of people giving away stuff on their network. To answer
your first question: The best they can do is cut you off, not sue. They
don't own the property that was being seeded. I've seen people from both
Aliant and Rogers get these notices, but Aliant is a lot more tolerant.
You'd have to be seeding 24/7 at considerable bandwidth before they'd
bother. They don't want to cut you off, you represent easy money.
Post by Leona
Post by clouddreamer
Post by Leona
Ok, So a "friend" of mine received an email staing that Rogers
received notification that stated this: Rogers Cable (Rogers) has
received a notice stating that activities associated with your IP
address are infringing copyright in material(s) owned or exclusively
licensed by others.
Can Rogers actually sue, or just disconnect the service?
Is it really illegal in Canada to DL copies of copywright materal? OR
is it because my "friend left the seed open for a bit and technically
was sharing it?
People do this every day without warning...How is it possible after
"trying" it out this person gets caught.
The material no longer sits on the network, which is what Rogers said
needed to be done.
How do people do this all day everyday without being caught?
If say one purchases a copy of the Movie/CD/Software is it illegal to
own a digital copy taken from another peer?
Leona :)
I've heard of others getting it, but have yet to hear of any action
being taken because of it.
I still buy dvds and have kept my subscription to the movie channels, so
AFAIAC, I have technically paid for the few movies I download.
;]
--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's true.
I'm thinking it's because they keep the seed open for a little while
overnight and technically were sharing it.
Any hints on how they not receive anymore emails like this?
Leona
This happens to many people, and nothing will ever come of it. In my
case it was due to a roommate downloading episodes of Battlestar
Gallactica. Basically NBC contact Rogers, and Rogers just forwarded
the "complaint". I just deleted the email, and my roommate continued
what he was doing. I believe Rogers just forwards it along and washes
their hands of it
Leona
2009-11-10 10:24:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by DrewNL
Yeah, ISPs pass stuff on, and thats all. They need to look like they
care, or they'll catch crap from studios...so they send emails.
Post by DrewNL
You're right on the seeding, thats what got you.....r friend. Rogers is
really afraid of people giving away stuff on their network. To answer
your first question: The best they can do is cut you off, not sue. They
don't own the property that was being seeded. I've seen people from both
Aliant and Rogers get these notices, but Aliant is a lot more tolerant.
You'd have to be seeding 24/7 at considerable bandwidth before they'd
bother. They don't want to cut you off, you represent easy money.
Post by Leona
Post by clouddreamer
Post by Leona
Ok, So a "friend" of mine received an email staing that Rogers
received notification that stated this: Rogers Cable (Rogers) has
received a notice stating that activities associated with your IP
address are infringing copyright in material(s) owned or exclusively
licensed by others.
Can Rogers actually sue, or just disconnect the service?
Is it really illegal in Canada to DL copies of copywright materal? OR
is it because my "friend left the seed open for a bit and technically
was sharing it?
People do this every day without warning...How is it possible after
"trying" it out this person gets caught.
The material no longer sits on the network, which is what Rogers said
needed to be done.
How do people do this all day everyday without being caught?
If say one purchases a copy of the Movie/CD/Software is it illegal to
own a digital copy taken from another peer?
Leona :)
I've heard of others getting it, but have yet to hear of any action
being taken because of it.
I still buy dvds and have kept my subscription to the movie channels, so
AFAIAC, I have technically paid for the few movies I download.
  ;]
--
We must change the way we live
        Or the climate will do it for us.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's true.
I'm thinking it's because they keep the seed open for a little while
overnight and technically were sharing it.
Any hints on how they not receive anymore emails like this?
Leona
This happens to many people, and nothing will ever come of it.  In my
case it was due to a roommate downloading episodes of Battlestar
Gallactica.  Basically NBC contact Rogers, and Rogers just forwarded
the "complaint".  I just deleted the email, and my roommate continued
what he was doing.  I believe Rogers just forwards it along and washes
their hands of it- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I figured as much I hear of people downlaoding all day long even with
the Cap (another story in itself.). Is there a way to stop seeding
after the DL is complete using Utorrent?

Thanks for everyones help.

Leona
clouddreamer
2009-11-10 13:00:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by Leona
I figured as much I hear of people downlaoding all day long even with
the Cap (another story in itself.). Is there a way to stop seeding
after the DL is complete using Utorrent?
The only way to stop seeding is to remove the torrent from Utorrent.

Though, you've been seeding while downloading as well. But as I noted,
it's likely not the act of downloading that gets you the notice, but the
particular file that is being downloaded.

..
--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us.
Corey
2009-11-10 14:27:30 UTC
Permalink
Post by clouddreamer
Post by Leona
I figured as much I hear of people downlaoding all day long even with
the Cap (another story in itself.). Is there a way to stop seeding
after the DL is complete using Utorrent?
The only way to stop seeding is to remove the torrent from Utorrent.
Though, you've been seeding while downloading as well. But as I noted,
it's likely not the act of downloading that gets you the notice, but the
particular file that is being downloaded.
  ..
--
We must change the way we live
        Or the climate will do it for us.
Or use some sort of third-party program to mask your IP address. I
haven't done this, but I know of people who have. I believe there is
one program called PeerGuardian, or something like that, if you're
really that worried about it.
David
2009-11-11 01:57:15 UTC
Permalink
Azureus and others can generally use IP Filters to not mask, but rather ignore
connection requests from known "industry" IP addresses... Peer Guardian does
the same thing... simple IP filtering at the application level.

If you use Azureus / Vuze, simply add this line in your config under IP Filters
/ Auto Loading:

http://www.bluetack.co.uk/config/level1.gz

There are other IP lists out there... I use this one successfully...

Your mileage may vary.


David.
Post by clouddreamer
Post by Leona
I figured as much I hear of people downlaoding all day long even with
the Cap (another story in itself.). Is there a way to stop seeding
after the DL is complete using Utorrent?
The only way to stop seeding is to remove the torrent from Utorrent.
Though, you've been seeding while downloading as well. But as I noted,
it's likely not the act of downloading that gets you the notice, but the
particular file that is being downloaded.
..
--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us.
Or use some sort of third-party program to mask your IP address. I
haven't done this, but I know of people who have. I believe there is
one program called PeerGuardian, or something like that, if you're
really that worried about it.
Jim
2009-11-10 02:59:22 UTC
Permalink
If that was the case, I'd long be cut off.
I've been seeding torrents 24/7 since I started
downloading them around 3 years ago.
Post by DrewNL
You're right on the seeding, thats what got you.....r friend. Rogers is
really afraid of people giving away stuff on their network. To answer your
first question: The best they can do is cut you off, not sue. They don't
own the property that was being seeded. I've seen people from both Aliant
and Rogers get these notices, but Aliant is a lot more tolerant. You'd
have to be seeding 24/7 at considerable bandwidth before they'd bother.
They don't want to cut you off, you represent easy money.
Post by Leona
Post by clouddreamer
Post by Leona
Ok, So a "friend" of mine received an email staing that Rogers
received notification that stated this: Rogers Cable (Rogers) has
received a notice stating that activities associated with your IP
address are infringing copyright in material(s) owned or exclusively
licensed by others.
Can Rogers actually sue, or just disconnect the service?
Is it really illegal in Canada to DL copies of copywright materal? OR
is it because my "friend left the seed open for a bit and technically
was sharing it?
People do this every day without warning...How is it possible after
"trying" it out this person gets caught.
The material no longer sits on the network, which is what Rogers said
needed to be done.
How do people do this all day everyday without being caught?
If say one purchases a copy of the Movie/CD/Software is it illegal to
own a digital copy taken from another peer?
Leona :)
I've heard of others getting it, but have yet to hear of any action
being taken because of it.
I still buy dvds and have kept my subscription to the movie channels, so
AFAIAC, I have technically paid for the few movies I download.
;]
--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's true.
I'm thinking it's because they keep the seed open for a little while
overnight and technically were sharing it.
Any hints on how they not receive anymore emails like this?
Leona
__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
signature database 4590 (20091109) __________
The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
http://www.eset.com
__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4590 (20091109) __________

The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

http://www.eset.com
clouddreamer
2009-11-10 12:59:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Leona
Post by clouddreamer
Post by Leona
Ok, So a "friend" of mine received an email staing that Rogers
received notification that stated this: Rogers Cable (Rogers) has
received a notice stating that activities associated with your IP
address are infringing copyright in material(s) owned or exclusively
licensed by others.
Can Rogers actually sue, or just disconnect the service?
Is it really illegal in Canada to DL copies of copywright materal? OR
is it because my "friend left the seed open for a bit and technically
was sharing it?
People do this every day without warning...How is it possible after
"trying" it out this person gets caught.
The material no longer sits on the network, which is what Rogers said
needed to be done.
How do people do this all day everyday without being caught?
If say one purchases a copy of the Movie/CD/Software is it illegal to
own a digital copy taken from another peer?
Leona :)
I've heard of others getting it, but have yet to hear of any action
being taken because of it.
I still buy dvds and have kept my subscription to the movie channels, so
AFAIAC, I have technically paid for the few movies I download.
;]
--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's true.
I'm thinking it's because they keep the seed open for a little while
overnight and technically were sharing it.
Any hints on how they not receive anymore emails like this?
It doesn't have to do with leaving it open. From what I've heard others
say, it's the particular file being downloaded, not the downloading
itself. I've left seeds open for months unend without a problem. But
I've seen people say "don't download this or that file cause you'll get
a notice from your ISP."

..
--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us.
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